Unfold: SEB ROCHFORD
Seb Rochford has been part of the undercurrent of British music for more than two decades — from Polar Bear’s knotty jazz to the ritual weight of Pulled by Magnets, from punk clubs to Patti Smith’s stage. A drummer, composer and producer, he’s always treated sound as something felt before it’s understood. Finding Ways continues that line — no pedals, no polish, just the discipline of listening. Neil Housego met with Rochford to talk about rhythm as upkeep, attention as practice, and the quiet persistence of making sound.
There’s a kind of survival that doesn’t announce itself. It doesn’t trend or turn itself into a storyline. It just keeps time. Seb Rochford calls it finding ways – the daily act of holding rhythm when everything else drops out. For him, that’s literal: a snare, a ride, the space between two notes. But as he speaks, it becomes something wider: basic upkeep, the habit of protecting what’s left of your interior life before the world gets to it.
It’s an early October morning in the UK, that half-awake kind of light – slightly blue, a little soft around the edges. Rochford appears on Zoom, framed by the tidy geometry of his studio. There’s warmth in his voice and a pocket of stillness. Outside, the day does its scroll. Inside the frame, time thickens. His sentences don’t end so much as hover; they bend, drift, land somewhere unexpected. After a while, the frame falls away and it’s just conversation. I find myself slowing down too, answering more quietly than usual. It’s hard not to.
He says Finding Ways began from something practical, not grand. A life thing. The past few years had been heavy; the details aren’t for here. What mattered was inventing a daily rhythm that lifted him enough to carry on. No myth, no redemption arc – just repetition as repair. Some people run. Some meditate. He writes. He plays. Sometimes the process is there to find the right vibrations and let them give back what he needs.
The record came together at The Shelter with Leo Abrahams on recording duties, and Tchad Blake on the mix. Its engine is an unusual guitar constellation – sometimes two, sometimes three – pulling players from different corners of Seb’s world: Tara Cunningham, David Preston, Simon Tong, Adrian Utley, John Parish and others. He wrote it, produced it, and followed his ear. Not a genre pivot, not a posture. Simply: that’s what I wanted to hear. Someone called it post-punk somewhere; interesting, he says, but not how he thought it.
What he did think about was contact – how sound is made by bodies in space, not boxes in series. He banned pedals. Banned reverb on the amps too. Not as purism but as a way of forcing touch. Set the amps hot enough that if someone digs in, the amp breaks up; record at a volume where the room itself starts to saturate. If you’re pressing a pedal, he says, the pedal is doing the work for you – and for this music, he needed the energy of people physically making sound. You can hear the choice in the grain of it: tones leaning into each other, tiny sways where guitars braid, the sympathetic ring that only arrives when edges aren’t buffered. When he talks about guitar, his references land on people, not styles. Lydia Lunch for the refusal to hide. Tara Cunningham for that same directness – he’d been listening for years; a trio with Caius Williams and Steve Noble sealed it. Simon Tong is another kind of presence: quiet until the exact idea clicks, and then you can’t imagine the song without it. Time and groove arriving like a decision.
If A Short Diary (ECM) was a private notation of loss, Finding Ways turns outward – charged and physical. The intimacy now isn’t hush but proximity. Most of it is live takes. Ninety-five per cent unedited. They just played. John Parish overdubbed his parts later, but the spine is the room. What’s there in that moment is the truth of it. If it works, great. If it doesn’t, that’s still a feeling. That phrase – still a feeling – sits quietly at the centre. He thinks about composition, about shape, but when the red light is on, the point is intuition: take the risk, don’t judge it. The technical thinking has already happened at home. In the room you trust the trained instinct and you play. The word play sounds small, almost fragile, but in his mouth it becomes a form of defiance. The record holds a tension between control and surrender, fear and joy, knowing and letting go. Meaning isn’t found in precision; it lives in contact itself – pressure moved, vibration felt, presence made audible.
People anchor these songs. One piece asks directly: Who’s your person? He thinks of his grandfather – ‘my Indian grandpa’ – who spent three and a half years as a prisoner of war in Japan and came home without bitterness. The family still has his written accounts. If he could come through that and remain gentle, Seb says, then whatever challenges arrive they can be met with the same quiet strength. Friendship sits in the same circle. He would meet Patrick Walden, whom he had known since 2004. Not to workshop songs, just to be near each other: King’s Cross walks, food, cinema, the relief of unforced company. When he was low, time with Patrick brought joy. Patrick had been meant to record on the album but went into hospital; later, Seb got him to overdub on a separate track from the same period. Patrick died not long after. ‘He was one of my finding ways,’ Seb says. The music holds his echo – the trace of a conversation that didn’t end so much as continue without speech.
Seb Rochford by Dave Stapleton
There’s gentleness across the record, but it isn’t soft. The light here is patient – built from raw guitar tone and the dry breath of drums. It moves with an open gait, forward but never hurried. You can hear musicians listening, leaving space for one another: the sound of people not perfecting something but staying together long enough for the room to remember them. That openness isn’t a pose; it’s biography. He grew up where being into different things was normal – nine siblings, each tuned differently. From his mum: Nina Simone, Keith Jarrett, a lot of Bill Evans. She taught him to listen deep. She’d hand over an album and ask him to come back and talk about it. In her last years, mostly in bed, those debriefs became ritual. She died when he was eighteen. His dad put on Thomas Tallis and Bach on Sunday mornings – a domestic liturgy you can almost hear in how Seb thinks about tone and space. The siblings spread out across scenes – punk, psych, goth, biker, Nick Cave – difference wasn’t divergence; it was home.
So the ‘guitar record’ isn’t a heel-turn so much as a change in palette. He sees it as his music, continuous with the rest. He’s curious about what multiple guitars do together – how intonation rubs and sympathetic noise behave in shared atmosphere – and he wants to remove the crutches that make those interactions too safe. Not a ‘guitar album’ so much as a study in touch: what touch does to space; what space does to time.
Between sessions and on days off he walks galleries, not to mine references but to recalibrate. Sometimes he needs to see something that shifts him a little, something that reminds him there’s another way to look. Laurie Anderson in Sweden blew him away – the width of her mediums. A friend took him to the Tate to see Emily Kam Kngwarray and he’s still processing it. So much received that isn’t being told to you. His great-grandmother is Aboriginal; he doesn’t know that culture, but in Australia something in him is struck, as if a dormant frequency wakes.
He doesn’t walk through life with a phone held up. He learned early to ration attention. Before a teenage trip to India, his mum gave him one roll of film: look before you take the picture. He still follows it. A way of refusing the flattening that happens when everything is instantly available but lightly held. He resists categorising in grooves. Time is lived and elastic: something players draw from one another in the moment. Years of stages put certain pulses into the body – Caribbean sway, free time, brittle backbeats – and they resurface once you stop intellectualising. That’s why the limits matter. Hot amps. Loud room. No reverb screens. Commit to the take. Keep it if it trembles. Keep it if it blooms. If a chord teeters before it locks, that’s information. If a drum figure pulls and returns, that’s the conversation. If it works, great. If it doesn’t, that’s still a feeling.
By the end of our call the light outside my window has shifted. We’re talking cymbals now — the lineage, the dryness of 16-inch flat hi-hats, how a 10-inch complements it, the work of master cymbal-smiths. He’s deep in it, describing tone like weather. It’s obvious he just loves sound — not in theory, but in practice, in vibration. Tomorrow there’ll be another way to keep going: a tune started for it’s feel, a long walk, a painting that tilts the axis a few degrees, another decision about where to place a mic in a live room. Comfort is good, he says, but sometimes you need something new, just to wake up again.
He says it lightly, but that’s the core. Finding Ways isn’t about mastery; it’s about staying porous. On paper you can reduce it to method – constraints, live takes, little editing. In the room, it registers as presence: the breath between hits, the minute swells where guitars meet, the way a figure lands like it had somewhere else to be and decided to stay. He doesn’t need to frame it more grandly than that. He’s already doing the quiet work of keeping time through the week, finding the people who steady you when you can’t steady yourself. The rest – genre tags, lineages – can wait. Right now there’s this: a record of musicians moving sound through a room and letting whatever happens be true for that moment.
Maybe that’s what rhythm is: not what you play, but what keeps you from stopping.
Finding Ways by Sebastian Rochford is released November 7th on Edition Records